tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556371561007953336.post2044436701576971654..comments2024-03-16T16:44:18.220-07:00Comments on Bad Cripple: Purple Feather: Offensive in the Extremewilliam Peacehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00223601480542461802noreply@blogger.comBlogger78125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556371561007953336.post-53279952948811177942014-01-21T18:10:24.633-08:002014-01-21T18:10:24.633-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556371561007953336.post-1227551847826683082014-01-21T07:59:14.742-08:002014-01-21T07:59:14.742-08:00The kid debate is over. No further anonymous comme...The kid debate is over. No further anonymous comments will be accepted. No further discussion here is needed unless it breaks new ground. william Peacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00223601480542461802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556371561007953336.post-52228667419634093612014-01-21T07:56:24.662-08:002014-01-21T07:56:24.662-08:00I took a look at kid's blog and those verbose ...I took a look at kid's blog and those verbose attacks as you call them have nothing to do with people not sharing his views. They're his replies to attacks on him. All he's done is show the other side of the coin on this ad yet someone's using it for their own ends. Amazing just how many anon comments the last few have been and how none of them have posted on kid's blog. Most of them are probably by one guy.<br /><br /><br /><br />Bill C<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556371561007953336.post-34566539617134121442014-01-21T03:35:00.299-08:002014-01-21T03:35:00.299-08:00Final word: I am confident that Everyone can see f...Final word: I am confident that Everyone can see from the link provided earlier that the person holding grudges is 'the Kid', whose blog, between anecdotes about old toys and comic books, is littered with verbose attacks on the numerous people who do not share his personal opinions. It is awful that Mr Peace has now become another one of his targets!!! Stop doing this, Kid, please!!<br /><br />WizAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556371561007953336.post-59749497095613155632014-01-21T01:26:20.340-08:002014-01-21T01:26:20.340-08:00Mr Peace,
I hope you will allow equal time and all...Mr Peace,<br />I hope you will allow equal time and allow me to express my disgust at someone pursuing a personal grudge using your comments section in order to misrepresent Kid Robson's blog post. Absolutely reprehensible. The man is entitled to express his view even if it's different to yours. Equality surely belongs to everyone. <br />Best wishes. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556371561007953336.post-31600825279616012272014-01-20T04:44:47.190-08:002014-01-20T04:44:47.190-08:00Mr Peace,
I know you probably won't publish th...Mr Peace,<br />I know you probably won't publish this but I just wanted you to know that I'm disgusted by the way Kid Robson has misrepresented the argument on his own blog in order to try and humiliate and insult you. Absolutely disgusting. <br />Best wishes. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556371561007953336.post-22433145226130583132014-01-19T05:24:28.288-08:002014-01-19T05:24:28.288-08:00Thanks to kid this comment thread has deteriorated...Thanks to kid this comment thread has deteriorated and is embarrassing empty rhetoric. I refuse to participate and will delete all further comments. I will make one final point: all those I know in disability studies share my views. I would suggest those that take exception to my views follow this link. I am hardly alone in taking this video to task.<br />http://www.disabilityandrepresentation.com/2012/06/13/pity-and-the-blind-beggar/william Peacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00223601480542461802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556371561007953336.post-35903297169979208352014-01-18T16:44:30.003-08:002014-01-18T16:44:30.003-08:00HGW, you're the one obscuring the argument...t...HGW, you're the one obscuring the argument...the blind man didn't just know it was a woman from feeling her shoes, he knew it was a particular woman, so you've entirely missed the point. Best you do leave...you have contributed little of value.<br /><br />Jim Scott.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556371561007953336.post-14723433175475589602014-01-18T15:25:57.835-08:002014-01-18T15:25:57.835-08:00Kid Robson is a troll. Ignore. Kid Robson is a troll. Ignore. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556371561007953336.post-86881440107089353872014-01-18T11:56:45.729-08:002014-01-18T11:56:45.729-08:00A blind man knowing someone is a woman because he...A blind man knowing someone is a woman because he felt she was wearing women's shoes isn't a portrayal of high intellect. The fact ...is.... he was shown to be inefficient at begging until someone AB helped him. Now as your obscuring the issue with your own muddled argument I will now leave this debate.HGWnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556371561007953336.post-59882121266720699322014-01-18T10:59:38.299-08:002014-01-18T10:59:38.299-08:00Anon, Kid Robson explained William Peace's vie...Anon, Kid Robson explained William Peace's view fairly and adequately without needing to link to it, although it would have been handy. More to the point, why didn't you ask Kid Robson your question over on his blog? HGW, you certainly bend in the wind, don't you? That blind beggar is smart enough to know a woman by the feel of her shoes. That's pretty smart if you ask me. And are you honestly saying there are no blind people in the world who are also stupid? Advertisers portray anyone and everyone in a way that suits their purpose...surely in that way the beggar is being portrayed no differently from anyone else? Or must we patronise the handicapped by only showing them in a positive light all the time. Should non-handicapped people be offended by the suggestion that none of them can ever have an idea that a disabled person couldn't have? That would be just as riduculous as William Peace's stance.<br /><br />Jim Scott.<br /><br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556371561007953336.post-20425479704067990312014-01-18T09:33:56.863-08:002014-01-18T09:33:56.863-08:00I cannot answer for Kid Robson so why are you aski...I cannot answer for Kid Robson so why are you asking me? Watching the video again.... It is unsettling. I can see why people would find it offensive. The negative stereotyping of a blind beggar who is shown he's not even smart enough to beg efficiently without the help of an AB person. It leaves a bad taste in the mouth. HGWnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556371561007953336.post-25912989545231981352014-01-18T07:12:02.091-08:002014-01-18T07:12:02.091-08:00Hi HGW, Why has 'Kid Robson' felt it neces...Hi HGW, Why has 'Kid Robson' felt it necessary to publish his spin on things on his blog? He calls Mr Peace 'intellectually dishonest' whilst at the same time only putting forward his own point of view and neglecting to link to Mr Peace's blog for interested parties to view the full story.<br /><br />http://kidr77.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/good-or-bad-you-decide.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556371561007953336.post-17838408412703165142014-01-17T23:14:15.290-08:002014-01-17T23:14:15.290-08:00Advertising usually patronises its intended audien...Advertising usually patronises its intended audience, disabled or otherwise.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556371561007953336.post-24276084287886991922014-01-17T16:49:45.538-08:002014-01-17T16:49:45.538-08:00Kid brought this to my attention via a post on his...Kid brought this to my attention via a post on his own blog and I agree with him that you may be over reacting but I can kinda understand how the ad is patronising. HGWnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556371561007953336.post-68460374731122531432014-01-17T14:52:24.281-08:002014-01-17T14:52:24.281-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Kidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07224781868125924337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556371561007953336.post-30674793710975410772014-01-17T03:45:58.232-08:002014-01-17T03:45:58.232-08:00Anonymous, I have no interest in the good will of ...Anonymous, I have no interest in the good will of others. I am only interested in equality. Many a disabled person has been harmed by the so called will of others. This is painfully obvious when one reads about the history of disability. Think Willowbrook or Buck v. Bell and the ugly laws. william Peacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00223601480542461802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556371561007953336.post-60652799851784580482014-01-17T03:43:27.417-08:002014-01-17T03:43:27.417-08:00Kid, Disagree with your entire line of reasoning. ...Kid, Disagree with your entire line of reasoning. I am not over reacting--the images associated with disability are uniformly negative. Disabled or not, the beggar in this video is rendered powerless by dominant society. I am offended to live in a society that reduces any human being to begging, william Peacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00223601480542461802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556371561007953336.post-39651757063509195682014-01-16T19:49:59.132-08:002014-01-16T19:49:59.132-08:00I'm pretty sure that the way to change people&...I'm pretty sure that the way to change people's minds about the fitness of this video is not by calling them stupid, uneducated, uninformed or ignorant. Those who do so may feel better for having vented, but they won't have accomplished much beyond that. I suspect you've lost the attention and taxed the goodwill of some people you might otherwise have convinced. Your loss, not theirs.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03591907065793225507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556371561007953336.post-66987721040340173942014-01-16T12:46:44.544-08:002014-01-16T12:46:44.544-08:00To be honest (as well as frank), I think you'r...To be honest (as well as frank), I think you're over-reacting. One of the things I hear all the time is that disabled people just want to be treated like everyone else and not given any kind of 'special' treatment - "don't make a fuss", in other words, is what they're saying. So, here you have an example of a disabled person being treated just like everyone else and you take exception to it? As an able-bodied person, am I entitled to take offence at you being insulted by an able-bodied person helping out another human being who just happens to be blind? Incidentally, the film was shot outside the building at the back of The Gallery of Modern Art in Glasgow, Scotland. Such a sight is an extremely common one in the city.<br /><br />Just out of interest, would you have been so offended if it had just been someone begging because he was poor and not blind? Imagine his sign said 'I am poor and homeless', and the kindly woman wrote him a sign saying 'It's a lovely day, but it'll be a cold night on the street'. I'm sorry that you're disabled (I hope my sympathy doesn't offend you), but I think you're over-reacting in the extreme. Kidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07224781868125924337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556371561007953336.post-83297370392490025062014-01-16T12:10:03.330-08:002014-01-16T12:10:03.330-08:00If it was not just offensive, but offensive IN THE...If it was not just offensive, but offensive IN THE EXTREME for this able-bodied woman to help out the blind beggar by rewriting his sign more affectingly, then it was also offensive IN THE EXTREME for the passersby to condescend by giving him money. They're just as much flaunting their privilege in his face as she was. (And that he seemed to be grateful apparently cuts no ice.)<br /><br />So it's offensive IN THE EXTREME to try to be kind and charitable. I'll remember that the next time I see a disabled person on the street asking for money, won't I?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556371561007953336.post-7038766441019481082014-01-16T08:25:41.171-08:002014-01-16T08:25:41.171-08:00Chris, Why does it take effort on your part to &qu...Chris, Why does it take effort on your part to "treat disabled as normally as possible"? We are no different than anyone else. I would suggest you presume we are competent and capable human beings whose difference is simply more noticeable. william Peacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00223601480542461802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556371561007953336.post-74830688502527479692014-01-16T08:12:08.730-08:002014-01-16T08:12:08.730-08:00A perspective I hadn't considered, that the sh...A perspective I hadn't considered, that the short film would be stereotyping disabled people as incompetent, lacking in options, etc. I guess I agree that the disabled should be treated equally...somehow. <br /><br />Regardless of my awareness, I still do my best to treat disabled as normally as possible , though I still find that knowing how much help to extend can be difficult. Sometimes the simple offer of assistance is very offensive to disabled folks who bristle at even the slightest hint that I think they a can't do something on their own. I keep trying though, despite occasional defensiveness.Chris Juricichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12113808574022011127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556371561007953336.post-61302980072852619182014-01-11T14:07:36.443-08:002014-01-11T14:07:36.443-08:00Well stated! My sentiments exactly. Well stated! My sentiments exactly. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556371561007953336.post-51398933364709512732014-01-11T13:59:20.756-08:002014-01-11T13:59:20.756-08:00Those were my questions exactly! I don't under...Those were my questions exactly! I don't understand how or why this is offensive. I am a disabled person myself and after watching it I felt her gesture sincere and much more empathetic than those who have treated me like I am less than for it. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com