tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556371561007953336.post6634223013961452031..comments2024-03-16T16:44:18.220-07:00Comments on Bad Cripple: More on the Assisted Suicidewilliam Peacehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00223601480542461802noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556371561007953336.post-71821211203107949222009-07-18T10:41:14.780-07:002009-07-18T10:41:14.780-07:00Peter Singer - to what absurd lengths does he carr...Peter Singer - to what absurd lengths does he carry this? Using his arguments, since I'm content with my life, I should stop looking for a job, live in a hut with no running water and without the wild luxury of air conditioning. And food is just food...there's no need to have a drink other than water. <br /><br />This man doesn't want "just" to kill people - he wants to suck all the joy and comfort out of those left alive. Although apparently it IS okay if someone wants to go out and have sex with a goat...Becshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03057614535554183360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556371561007953336.post-73107040675983466522009-07-18T08:40:32.867-07:002009-07-18T08:40:32.867-07:00I probably will post about him too, maybe on the d...I probably will post about him too, maybe on the doctors' blog I post on to let them know about these issues.<br /><br />The two pieces you've just written are excellent--I've meant to write a more cogent response to them, but for now I'll have to say thanks for writing them.FridaWriteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03321658097813377806noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556371561007953336.post-91123412881481025912009-07-18T04:15:55.822-07:002009-07-18T04:15:55.822-07:00Frida,
Yes, I saw and read the article by Singer....Frida,<br /><br />Yes, I saw and read the article by Singer. The lives of people with a disability are so costly under a new medical system we can save lots of money and not treat them. This is not wrong or right, just a social response. I will post about Singer today or tomorrow.william Peacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00223601480542461802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556371561007953336.post-10471441333617384102009-07-17T22:03:45.793-07:002009-07-17T22:03:45.793-07:00So...read the new Peter Singer article yet? Appar...So...read the new Peter Singer article yet? Apparently our lives are so crappy he wants to help us die now by denying medical care--it's the ethical thing to do (sarcasm).FridaWriteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03321658097813377806noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556371561007953336.post-64421940025930634432009-07-17T05:40:24.367-07:002009-07-17T05:40:24.367-07:00Goldfish, I agree end of life care usually can ame...Goldfish, I agree end of life care usually can ameliorate pain and suffering. The idea hordes of people are dying in agonizing pain in an ICU is not true. Yet both those for and those against assisted suicide can point to deeply moving cases: on one side people that die in great pain and suffer, on the other people that are needlessly pushed into suicide or have their life end because someone else determines their life has no value. Both extremes are wrong.<br /><br />I saw the video in question (Not Dead Yet has a link). I love the song, Euthanasia Blues, but the video you mention is not the best. I prefer the song accompanied by black and white images available on You Tube. To me, these gritty images are more moving than spliced video clips.william Peacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00223601480542461802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556371561007953336.post-71608902110248924512009-07-16T13:51:38.916-07:002009-07-16T13:51:38.916-07:00What an atrocious article! I am not 100% certain o...What an atrocious article! I am not 100% certain on assisted dying (see <a href="http://blobolobolob.blogspot.com/2008/11/on-voluntary-euthanasia-1.html" rel="nofollow">here</a> and <a href="http://blobolobolob.blogspot.com/2008/11/on-voluntary-euthanasia-2.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>), but one nonsense myth about the subject is the idea that there are loads of people out there in unbearable suffering and that <i>most</i> of us can face this kind of end. <br /><br />Most people who die of cancer in the West - as very many of us will eventually - probably die of diamorphine overdoses, because the necessary pain relief becomes deadly. Heart disease, another very common killer, usually (though not always) takes people out quite quickly. People are not usually made to suffer just so they might live another few days or weeks. And out of all the people I have known who have died at the end of an illness, not one of them died in Intensive Care; they died on regular hospital wards or being nursed at home or in a hospice.<br /><br />The pro assisted dying lobby would have much more weight if they focussed on the very small handful of individual cases when a person will have a very slow painful death without the physical capacity to end their own life - these cases are <i>very</i> rare, but to me they really do pose a genuine moral dilemma. When they make out all of us are going to suffer, well I think most people know better than that from experience. <br /><br />Incidentally, there's a kind of silly, strange but curious video satirising the UK media coverage of these issues <a href="http://tr.im/ssYs" rel="nofollow">here</a> which you might be interested to see. Be warned, although comical at points, it does include some upsetting footage, as broadcast on UK television.The Goldfishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15213378454070776331noreply@blogger.com